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Getting more traffic to this site using web keywords

Last post 10-29-2007, 7:48 AM by ZMan. 13 replies.
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  •  06-27-2007, 6:11 PM 4776

    Getting more traffic to this site using web keywords

    I had participated in the ( somewhat ) recent poll, and I noticed something was mentioned about getting traffic through web keywords. Today I looked at the source code of this website ( in FireFox: View>Page source [ non-editable ] ), and I noticed there is a lack of keywords. This explains why Phrogram.com never shows up in a web search. This is easily fixed by doing thus:

    1. Downloading the web pages ( not the entire site ) using an FTP client.
    2. Open "index.html"  ( or whatever ) in Notepad.
    3. Add "<meta name="keywords" content="programming beginner kids easy fun"> & <meta name="description" content="The Phrogram Company: programming for everyone that's easy, fun and cool!"> to the lines directly after the <head> line.
    4. Upload them to the web server again.

    The html would look like the following:

    ... 

    <head> 

    <meta name="keywords" content="programming beginner kids easy fun">

    <meta name="description" content="The Phrogram Company: programming for everyone that's easy, fun and cool!">

    ... 

     Obviously you would replace the highlighted text with your own keywords/description. You may need to repeat step 3 for all of the pages. Or you could simply write a program to do it for you. :P

     

  •  06-27-2007, 7:22 PM 4777 in reply to 4776

    Re: Getting more traffic to this site using web keywords

    If you look in the address bar you will notice a .aspx instead of an .html ending. This is because the page is powered by C#/VB .Net on the Server side. Therefore I don't think the way you mention will work. You would have to change the code on the server and that might violate the license to use Community server to power the site. Unless Community server allows that or has a option that you turn on when you set up the site.

  •  06-28-2007, 1:25 AM 4778 in reply to 4777

    Re: Getting more traffic to this site using web keywords

    But I think all webs contains HTML, no?
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  •  06-28-2007, 4:32 AM 4779 in reply to 4778

    Re: Getting more traffic to this site using web keywords

    It's true that it's a Community Server and ASP.NET site, but we should be able to set up appropriate keywords and description to help with traffic.  We'll look into that, thanks for pointing this out!

  •  06-28-2007, 8:28 AM 4782 in reply to 4778

    Re: Getting more traffic to this site using web keywords

    Hymake:
    But I think all webs contains HTML, no?

    No, Not all sites are html. This page isn't html on the server, but the server sends it as html.

    What happens is when you call the page the server runs some C#/VB .Net code to create the page. When it creates the page, it creates it in html which is what you see, (right click -> View Source) so you just got to get it to create the page with the html that DR suggested for keywords.

  •  06-28-2007, 8:48 AM 4783 in reply to 4777

    Re: Getting more traffic to this site using web keywords

    srjek:
    If you look in the address bar you will notice a .aspx instead of an .html ending. This is because the page is powered by C#/VB .Net on the Server side. Therefore I don't think the way you mention will work. You would have to change the code on the server and that might violate the license to use Community server to power the site. Unless Community server allows that or has a option that you turn on when you set up the site.

    Oops, I missed the ASPX. Thanks for pointing that out! I'm sure the Community Server software uses some sort of keyword system, if not HTML. But there must be some way to integrate an HTML meta tag. If they can tell it to use a Phrog logo background then they can probably tell it to use keywords somehow. You're right, my method will only work for HTM and HTML pages.

  •  06-28-2007, 8:55 AM 4785 in reply to 4783

    Re: Getting more traffic to this site using web keywords

    The Dragon Rider:

    Oops, I missed the ASPX. Thanks for pointing that out! I'm sure the Community Server software uses some sort of keyword system, if not HTML. But there must be some way to integrate an HTML meta tag. If they can tell it to use a Phrog logo background then they can probably tell it to use keywords somehow. You're right, my method will only work for HTM and HTML pages.

    This site does still use Html. The aspx line is to tell the server to treat it not as html but as code. When the server returns the output of the code. The code returns html. Right Click -> View Source will show you html even through that is not what the file on the server is.

    In order to add a search tag, according to the Community Server site, it is in the control panel at Administration -> Settings -> Site Content - > Search Meta Description and Search Meta Keywords

  •  06-28-2007, 12:05 PM 4787 in reply to 4785

    Re: Getting more traffic to this site using web keywords

    Most modern search engines largerly ignore the keywords anyway since they were abused so much in the early days of the web. Google and MSN scan the text of your page to determine its subject and also check the incoming links.

    So when people with high page ranks (google) link to Phorgram then this increases the importance of Phrogram.

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  •  06-28-2007, 6:49 PM 4795 in reply to 4787

    Re: Getting more traffic to this site using web keywords

    Is pageRank = the amount of incoming links? If not, how would it exist? Just another little mystery of the universe.

  •  06-28-2007, 7:36 PM 4796 in reply to 4795

    Re: Getting more traffic to this site using web keywords

    It is a special way Google has. They keep it secret to prevent a web page with just ads to be in every top 100 of every search.(Keyword Abuse?)

  •  06-29-2007, 1:25 PM 4806 in reply to 4796

    Re: Getting more traffic to this site using web keywords

    See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Page_rank for more information. The basic principles are public but exactly how they weight things is not.
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  •  06-30-2007, 3:21 AM 4808 in reply to 4782

    Re: Getting more traffic to this site using web keywords

    oh, you are right, thanks for the info
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  •  10-27-2007, 5:53 AM 5543 in reply to 4776

    Re: Getting more traffic to this site using web keywords

    I find that, the meta tags used for keywords help somewhat in the ranking process. Reason for this is because I had setup a blog a few months back, I set up a SEO package on it, which basically just added the meta into the pages. Within a week my blog was showing up on the top pages of both Google Blog Search and Google. Of course the blog search I had a better chance of getting my site to appear, then with the normal search Google has but it still helped quite a bit.

    This "Community Server" software should give you the option of editing meta data or even editing the templates for the pages. If not by default I imagine there is an add on for it just like I had put and add on, on my blog for the meta. 

     Something else worth noting is I submitted most of my posts to Digg that brought in about 70 views per post.
     

  •  10-29-2007, 7:48 AM 5555 in reply to 5543

    Re: Getting more traffic to this site using web keywords

    Google in particular totally ignores META keywords - see http://searchenginewatch.com/showPage.html?page=2167931 (and many other links of you google 'google' and 'meta').The ONLY think that matters on google is content on your home page and incoming links.

    Community server has page templates tht can be editied to show meta keywords but no matter what your SEO package told you the days of meta are long over...

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